Discuss camaraderie and the role of teams as these concepts relate to this section. How is "O'Brien" affected by no longer being part of a combat team? How does his departure affect his relationship with his former teammates?
He is affected by no longer being part of a combat team because he was so used to being apart of the combat team and then he had to change his whole routine and do something else in the war. He said that he wasn't bored with what he was doing, but he said he missed the adventure of being on the combat team. He departure affects his relationship with his former teammates by not being as close with them anymore.
O'brien feels very cruelly ostracized by his old combat team, and is almost replaced by Jensen. O'Brien feels like he is no longer part of the team and this effects him very negatively. He feels jealous and sad all at the same time. There is an invisible (and metaphorical) wall between him and his old team mates.
O'Brien misses being around his "brothers" on the combat team. Now that he's working somewhere else he doesn't get as much excitement about his job like he used to being on on the field fighting. He is not as close with his former teammates since he does not see them as much. That brother bond is not there anymore.
O'Brien seems to be much more bitter and depressed now that he is not a part of a combat team. He is upset because he can't do much of anything anymore. This affects his relationship with his former teammates by making him much more distant. He doesn't share a special connection with them anymore.
“O’Brien” is affected by no longer being a part of a combat team and feels like has been replaced by Jorgenson. The fact that he blames Jorgenson for his injury that forced his departure does not make it any easier on him. This affects him negatively and he feels very jealous. His departure affected his relationship with his former teammates because they have continued to risk their lives while “O’Brien” was stationed elsewhere. He is missing that strong connection that he had with them.
The role of teams relate to this section because it shows you wont always have the same team every time, things will change, people will leave and people will come. O'Brien is affected in a bad way he feels like he is being replaced which he is. His departure with his friends is sorrowful because he doesn't want to leave them. They all became such good friends but then he is betrayed. They have all seen and went through the same things. He became more like a brother to them than a friend. You can tell it affected him because being a soldier, to feel like you're being treated like a civilian is the worst feeling. You feel like you aren't a soldier anymore or you didn't help or save anyone and that made O'Brien upset and even a little mad.
O'Brien feels abandoned and replaced after discovering that he is not apart of the combat team. His departure is emotionally because he does not want to leave the group because of how close they have become. He feels like they have a strong friendship and he does not want to give that up. It bothered O'brien because he feels like they have been through so much, so he dwells on the reason as to why they removed him from the team.
O'Brien is affected by no longer being part of the combat group by feeling like he has been replaced. He misses being around his friends and blames Jorgenson for replacing and injuring him. The departure left him questioning why he had been removed from the group, along with reminiscing over his former teammates. It also caused his relationship with his friends to be weakened because they no longer have such a great bond by not seeing each other.
O'Brien feels left out and alone once he is no longer part of the combat team. When he sees his buddies again he is hurt because he feels replaced. The guy that he didn't like was now part of the "cool kids" and O'Brien was watching everyone else have fun. Being separated planted a bitter seed in O'Brien. He was full of new anger and an overwhelming desire to get back at those who have wronged him. Before he would never have acted that way.
O'Brien is affected by no longer being a part of the combat team by feeling even more upset and angry with the medic that had given him subpar care. O'Brien still yearns to be part of the combat team because his new position is much less exciting. His departure affects his relationship with former teammates by slowly separating them. Mitchell Sanders didn't want O'Brien to scare the doctor, but Azar was willing to take part. So, O'Brien wasn't fully disconnected from his former teammates; however, he wasn't nearly as close to them as he once was.
O'Brian feels left out when he is no longer in his combat team. They were like his brothers, but now things are different. He says he feels like a civilian. When he sees his friends again he feel replaced and angry. His departure affects his relationships with his friends because he is separated from them and he doesn't share the same stories with them.
Obrien is infected by not being in a team by a feeling of disappointment . He felt like he was replaced which is a terrible feeling to have. He feels jealous of his replacement. He misses the exciting of being on the front lines. Hes departure effects his friendship with his comrades by not being as close to them,, becuase he doesnt share all of the same experiences
By no longer being part of the team he feels left put and that he doesn't fit in. He misses going through the bush with his friends. His departure makes him feel distant from his team because he hasn't been there to relate with them anymore.
Have you ever had a similar feeling? Maybe when sidelined by an injury in soccer? (I don't know if that's ever happened to you, but I remember you hobbling around on crutches earlier this year.)
O'Brien's brotherly connection and close familiarity with his combat team make for a very painful and confusing separation that leaves O'Brien only to begin to think irrationally, believing that he was replaced. He actually misses the fear of combat because it was better than the hum drum activities of his new life. I don't think it's necessarily that he misses going through tunnels and searching forests and watching his friends die; O'Brien misses the sense of camaderie and unique feeling of belonging he felt with this particular squad. It's a feeling he couldn't find anywhere else, but even in his old team. The bond has been broken, and while it may be able to be repaired, it can never be the same.
Good points, Sam. It's like graduating seniors who have done nothing but complain about high school for four years, but who inexplicably show up at school the day after graduation just to hang out.
He is affected by no longer being part of a combat team because he was so used to being apart of the combat team and then he had to change his whole routine and do something else in the war. He said that he wasn't bored with what he was doing, but he said he missed the adventure of being on the combat team.
ReplyDeleteHe departure affects his relationship with his former teammates by not being as close with them anymore.
Do you think it's realistic that he would miss the basically crummy experience of being on patrol?
DeleteO'brien feels very cruelly ostracized by his old combat team, and is almost replaced by Jensen. O'Brien feels like he is no longer part of the team and this effects him very negatively. He feels jealous and sad all at the same time. There is an invisible (and metaphorical) wall between him and his old team mates.
ReplyDeleteIs this invisible and metaphorical wall enough to drive a person back into a dangerous situation?
DeleteO'Brien misses being around his "brothers" on the combat team. Now that he's working somewhere else he doesn't get as much excitement about his job like he used to being on on the field fighting. He is not as close with his former teammates since he does not see them as much. That brother bond is not there anymore.
ReplyDeleteHave you had a similar bonding experience with groups of people, Lexi?
DeleteO'Brien seems to be much more bitter and depressed now that he is not a part of a combat team. He is upset because he can't do much of anything anymore. This affects his relationship with his former teammates by making him much more distant. He doesn't share a special connection with them anymore.
ReplyDeleteIs this realistic, Ryan?
Delete“O’Brien” is affected by no longer being a part of a combat team and feels like has been replaced by Jorgenson. The fact that he blames Jorgenson for his injury that forced his departure does not make it any easier on him. This affects him negatively and he feels very jealous. His departure affected his relationship with his former teammates because they have continued to risk their lives while “O’Brien” was stationed elsewhere. He is missing that strong connection that he had with them.
ReplyDeleteWould you miss having your life in constant danger, even if it meant you weren't as close to your friends as you once were?
DeleteThe role of teams relate to this section because it shows you wont always have the same team every time, things will change, people will leave and people will come. O'Brien is affected in a bad way he feels like he is being replaced which he is. His departure with his friends is sorrowful because he doesn't want to leave them. They all became such good friends but then he is betrayed. They have all seen and went through the same things. He became more like a brother to them than a friend. You can tell it affected him because being a soldier, to feel like you're being treated like a civilian is the worst feeling. You feel like you aren't a soldier anymore or you didn't help or save anyone and that made O'Brien upset and even a little mad.
ReplyDeleteCan you relate to "O'Brien's" feelings, Leelee?
DeleteO'Brien feels abandoned and replaced after discovering that he is not apart of the combat team. His departure is emotionally because he does not want to leave the group because of how close they have become. He feels like they have a strong friendship and he does not want to give that up. It bothered O'brien because he feels like they have been through so much, so he dwells on the reason as to why they removed him from the team.
ReplyDeleteIs "O'Brien" thinking rationally at this point? Is peer pressure that strong?
DeleteO'Brien is affected by no longer being part of the combat group by feeling like he has been replaced. He misses being around his friends and blames Jorgenson for replacing and injuring him. The departure left him questioning why he had been removed from the group, along with reminiscing over his former teammates. It also caused his relationship with his friends to be weakened because they no longer have such a great bond by not seeing each other.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever had a similar experience with camaraderie, Evan?
DeleteO'Brien feels left out and alone once he is no longer part of the combat team. When he sees his buddies again he is hurt because he feels replaced. The guy that he didn't like was now part of the "cool kids" and O'Brien was watching everyone else have fun. Being separated planted a bitter seed in O'Brien. He was full of new anger and an overwhelming desire to get back at those who have wronged him. Before he would never have acted that way.
ReplyDeleteI like the "cool kids" expression, Abby. It's exactly the way O'Brien feels.
DeleteO'Brien is affected by no longer being a part of the combat team by feeling even more upset and angry with the medic that had given him subpar care. O'Brien still yearns to be part of the combat team because his new position is much less exciting. His departure affects his relationship with former teammates by slowly separating them. Mitchell Sanders didn't want O'Brien to scare the doctor, but Azar was willing to take part. So, O'Brien wasn't fully disconnected from his former teammates; however, he wasn't nearly as close to them as he once was.
ReplyDeleteCan excitement be a valid reason for putting your life in jeopardy, Glenn?
DeleteO'Brian feels left out when he is no longer in his combat team. They were like his brothers, but now things are different. He says he feels like a civilian. When he sees his friends again he feel replaced and angry. His departure affects his relationships with his friends because he is separated from them and he doesn't share the same stories with them.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you mention the story-sharing aspect, Amber, as stories have been central to the novel's progression so far.
DeleteObrien is infected by not being in a team by a feeling of disappointment . He felt like he was replaced which is a terrible feeling to have. He feels jealous of his replacement. He misses the exciting of being on the front lines. Hes departure effects his friendship with his comrades by not being as close to them,, becuase he doesnt share all of the same experiences
ReplyDeleteIndeed, he feels left out. Is it realistic for him to feel this way?
DeleteBy no longer being part of the team he feels left put and that he doesn't fit in. He misses going through the bush with his friends.
ReplyDeleteHis departure makes him feel distant from his team because he hasn't been there to relate with them anymore.
Have you ever had a similar feeling? Maybe when sidelined by an injury in soccer? (I don't know if that's ever happened to you, but I remember you hobbling around on crutches earlier this year.)
DeleteO'Brien's brotherly connection and close familiarity with his combat team make for a very painful and confusing separation that leaves O'Brien only to begin to think irrationally, believing that he was replaced. He actually misses the fear of combat because it was better than the hum drum activities of his new life. I don't think it's necessarily that he misses going through tunnels and searching forests and watching his friends die; O'Brien misses the sense of camaderie and unique feeling of belonging he felt with this particular squad. It's a feeling he couldn't find anywhere else, but even in his old team. The bond has been broken, and while it may be able to be repaired, it can never be the same.
ReplyDeleteGood points, Sam. It's like graduating seniors who have done nothing but complain about high school for four years, but who inexplicably show up at school the day after graduation just to hang out.
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